>>2870451
>ITT: Why you chose your tool ecosystem
Duh.
Because it's the best (the best! the best! the
best!)!
No but seriously, according to the internet Milwokee M12 seems to be quite powerful for a 12V system and they where the first that had a set without filler tools at a good price when I wanted to get some battery tools after buying a house and I wanted something light and compact, yet powerful enough for some serious use.
And so far, yeah, they're decent for the upper end of homeowner tier tools. Don't know if I'd trust them for pro tier. Their "only heavy duty" feels more like marketing.
So I've got the second M, Metabo.
Now that's heavy duty!
Also, I really like the fact that you get a manual with your stuff that actually explains things and not just a few pictures of things that you can figure out anyways as you get with Milwaukee, without any explantion about stuff like WHAT THE FUCKING BLINKING PATTERNS MEAN WHEN THE TOOL CUTS OUT!
But for light duty, Milkyway is fine.When the last set of batteries for my old Panasonic finally gave up the ghost, I got Ryobi 18v because of the price point, easily available locally, and the large selection of non-construction stuff they have for around the house. Bought first set 5 years ago, built a house with it. Only issues so far are a crunchy chuck on the old brushed drill/driver and one dead battery pack after 4 years. Had picked up a newer brushless to replace it, but once I got the Ridgid it just becomes the handy second drill with whatever specialty bit I will occasionally need on the project (usually countersink or self-centering bit).

Got da Ridgid 18v track saw because I handled it and saw it was leaps-and-bounds ahead of the Ryobi (fucking plastic baseplate and wing-nut adjustments). Like them alot, so slowly replacing high-use stuff with Ridgid during the better sales events.

Got da Milwaukee 12v drill/driver/impact-driver set because of a well priced deal a couple Black Fridays ago (honestly the really nice tool-bag it came with was one sealed the deal). Very convenient small size is great for random light-duty and electrical stuff. It is what stays in my go-bag of tools that is always in the car. Also been replacing hand tools with Milwaukee as they break/wear-out. Have spent 30 years with grab-bags of random tools I got cheap, decided to just become a brand whore. Haven't been disappointed by anything but the price thus far.>>2871816
> set of batteries for my old Panasonic finally gave up the ghost, I got Ryobi
Talk about a reversal of fortunes!
Get some nicd replacement batteries from china and rebuild the panasonic pack.
I did a dewalt and a ryobi one+ for $36 in these pre-tabbed 2/3 C nicd cells, they go for around 10 years.
The days you can replace cells is drawing to a close with DRM.
A lot of companies are good at precisely three things: generating e-waste, stealing money from the company, and scamming their own customers.>>2870451
Is this possible to cut your own head with circular saw?I don't buy into ecosystems.
I buy the best tool for the job.

I have a Metabo cordless drill since it's by far the best one feature wise, I can pull of the chuck in one simple motion and have a super short compact and lightweight driver with shittons of torque, no other drill can do that and i use it a lot. Needless to say it's a high quality tool in the first place.

I have a FEIN Multimaster since the vibration dampening on them is far superior to any other knockoff and I don't want to kill my wrists and nerve endings, and they're in general the best in class overall.

I have a Festool tracksaw because they make the best one.

Stop the tribalism, it's a dumb marketing thing they do to make you buy more of their mediocre tools.I went with Milwaukee because those are the tools my dad gave me.HART
bc its basically dirt cheap Ryobi
just wait for Walmart yellow tag sales
got my impact, drill, inflator, for $20 ea at separate times
got 2 batteries with an impact driver kit that was a gift and one more battery came with the drill
the blue and white looks good too>>2871854
>I have a Metabo cordless drill

What one is this?

>Stop the tribalism, it's a dumb marketing thing they do to make you buy more of their mediocre tools.

There definitely is lots of cringe tribalism, but it does make sense to try to stick to a few battery ecosystems. You effectively eat up backup capacity every time you have to buy and store a battery you can only use on some particular tool, meanwhile... your examples are actually perfect, Metabo and Fein are CAS and Ampshare, there's only a few performance heavy or rare tool types you'd have to reach outside either of those systems to get a solid one. Like I don't think there's a big concrete saw there for instance.>>2870451
I’m a ridgid loser :(>>2871170
Yea I’ve owned some ryobi, and some porter cable (which used to be a solid brand in our parents time but is now just cheaper shit) but a lot of it has burnt out, and some was stolen. How pathetic must one’s life be to steal a drill from a working class person you’re gonna be able to pawn for 30$ max? Beyond me

I’m more careful with my tools now and obsessively lock them up when they’re out of my sight at all, so I’d like to invest in something a little better, that at least won’t burn out cutting through anything harder than poplar. If a tool is cheap enough or not used very often im all for the harbor freight option, but at a certain point it becomes less annoying to just get something a little better that will hopefully last a little longer.
>rigid
I’ve heard a lot about how their warranty is good for the priceI've built many sheds, yards, decks, fences, trailers, and going for two houses soon. all with ryobi.

All tools work the same. buy whatever you can afford. anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot who bought a [color] tool and used it 2, 3 times and needs to justify his existence to you.>>2871740
I don't get my housing, transportation, food, energy, or healthcare from China. How about you?>>2872001
>I’ve heard a lot about how their warranty is good for the price
Make sure you register your tools!

That being said, if you’re a DIYer and like to consoom, I wouldn’t make their LSA your main deciding factor. Milwaukee gives you 5 years on tools, 3 on most batteries. Pretty much the rest of the brands are 3 years. Unlike Harbor Freight’s 90 days, the 3+ year warranty gives you enough time to know if you’re going to fry a defective tool or battery. Aside from that, with DIY use, you should get 5 years out of batteries easy and more like 10 years out of the tools, and if they fail at that point or you break them doing something dumb, you probably want to upgrade to the new model anyway.

The main thing that appeals to me is the battery LSA, I’m curious to see how the process will be, especially when I finally burn up something on the discontinued 12V tools. If it’s easy, I will be stoked if I can swap out my 5+ year old 4.0Ah packs and grab a fresh pack for another 5 years. Only thing I have warrantied so far was a Ryobi that an old lady killed by likely leaving it in a tool in her trunk for months and over-discharged it, and it wasn’t registered, but I sent them the serial #s of the tool, charger, and battery from the kit and they mailed me a brand new battery in a couple days and I was able to pop the tamper proof seal off the old one and recover the cell and keep the old battery as well. That wasn’t Ridgid, but same parent company.>>2872031
>He thinks these things won't be affected because he doesn't know how deeply interconnected things are
Trump's first rounds of tariffs absolutely fucked over American farmers.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/01/21/trump-tariff-aid-to-farmers-cost-more-than-us-nuclear-forces/>>2870451
Dewalt, simply because of availability and pricing. I prefer being able to go to Lowe's OR Home Depot and they tend to go on better sales than Milwaukee, you can basically get a whole DeWalt setup for Ryobi prices if you're patient, maybe because there's the competition between those two big hardware chains. I might have considered Metabo or Makita but I do both home DIY and a lot of automotive and those brands are way behind on automotive tools.

>>2870806
>The dewalt factories in the US are for show, they just screw the two made-in-china clamshells together and slap on the stickers.
This isn't entirely true, they actually build motors and gearboxes in the US. They only do it for a few models (mostly/entirely drills) and only because of sourcing requirements for government contracts though.>>2872134
> they actually build motors and gearboxes in the US
Checked. I guess it depends on your definition of ‘build’
Surprisingly, they do actually wind their own armatures on the motor, but it doesn’t look like they punch out the silicon steel laminations or make the armature core. Still, it’s a start, but I’m convinced the US can’t make a complete tool motor from scratch.
> government contracts
And yes, you’re probably going to retain some vestigial ability todo so for US wartime purposes at the very least.>>2870451
Grew up learning the basics from my dad who was a signage installer and really loved makita, never understood what he meant when he said makitas just felt better to use until I got into the trades and got my hands on other brands, no matter the tool my makitas just felt better, bosch is a close second for me though. Only downside is that makitas 12v line blows donkey dickAfter having used almost every color of cordless tool, I just bought Hart stuff from walmart for myself. It's just recolored ryobi with not-retarded batteries, and individual walmart locations will randomly mark their hart stuff down 50%+ off throughout the year for who knows why. I have the drill, impact driver, 1/2" impact wrench, tire inflator, 3/8" ratchet, leaf blower, stick vacuum, 5 different lights including a tripod work light, a 12" cordless/corded hybrid fan, about 10 batteries, and I think I have around $500-600 spent total.>>2872134
>I prefer being able to go to Lowe's OR Home Depot
If you're looking at the tool branding, keep in mind that the "Power Detect" Lowes sells is just a store-exclusive relabelled version of XR tools. HD, Amazon, and other sellers carry Flexvolt Advantage tools that, while not 60V tools, get a solid performance boost from 60V batteries compared to XR.

Basically, Lowes got whiny at DeWalt that they wanted a branding draw nobody else could have, so DW just said "fine, here."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJCjaMZR6PI>>2872089
>Trump's first rounds of tariffs absolutely fucked over American farmers.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/01/21/trump-tariff-aid-to-farmers-cost-more-than-us-nuclear-forces/
>the tariffs didn't bother the farmers at all
>what bothered the farmers was China cutting off food imports
>the value of this trade disruption is les than 1% of US production>>2870451
Anything cordless besides drill/impact kit is faggot tier

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