It disgusts me how today's so-called "cycling activists" are doing the work of the automotive lobby while thinking that they're the good guys.
Imagine if a bunch of politicians started pushing for a special residential area for a certain group, after having them habitually assaulted with weapons for many years. "We're terribly sorry about all the bloodshed but can't guarantee your safety, if you want to be safe, you have to go in this special place we designated for you".
That is what bike lanes are. We've tried "separate but equal". It doesn't work, because tyranny of the majority means a highly flexible definition of "equal".
People who have been riding bikes for many decades know what the game is. But zoomers and corona cyclists believe they know best. Instead of demanding justice, they demand segregation. Which is exactly what the automotive supremacists want.Sooo... you're telling me the auto-moto-oil lobby and similairly thinking cagies DON'T want things to be the way they've been for the last half century? Then the US must be a safe haven for cyclists and benelux countries must be the biggest pofit drivers for the car industry.>>1955863 Do all cyclists constantly delude themselves into stupid justifications? The only possible reason you could have for wanting to "share the road" as opposed to separate bike lanes, which is faster and safer for literally everyone involved, is because you're poor and want to make other people suffer because of your idiotic "cause."
No one ever really cared how you got to work until you people made it an issue, but of course the point of all lefty causes isn't to be effective, it's to make everyone miserable.>>1955897 not op, but i just want to use normal side streets, which have room for a cyclist and a driver, without fear. not every street needs a bike lane. that being said, i want to use a major artery - nice bike lane there makes it good.>>1955899 There's a big difference between a neighborhood street and a major road, but honestly if neighborhoods do decide to make good, dutch-style bike lanes, I really don't see the problem. It puts physical space between the cyclists and cars, and bikes still get to brag about not having to stop for traffic and getting to work faster than "cagers."Man you’re really that asshurt from the other thread lol. No one a buying your horseshit.Bike lanes are proven to be safer for all users of the road, and good for the economy. 0/10 OP>>1955897 This is a perfect distillation of the segregationist mentality. They claim to be interested in safety, but their solution to safety is to get rid of the cyclist and make it so that the only place he's allowed to ride is in a few wealthy neighborhoods. Don't actually hold anyone responsible for their actions. Don't try to punish drivers for running over someone while texting at 55mph in a 25mph zone. No, that's "lefty" and would make *drivers* (the only people who matter) miserable.
I look forward to "but in amsterdam" and some random garbage about how I'm a communist cagetroll NIMBY boomer for not wanting to die at the hands of a karen in a minivan.>>1955900 but that separation shouldn't be needed in calmer traffic contexts. i just want to trust drivers to not be a dick in a low speed neighborhood environment.