>>94531269
>Half these pictures

If the fucking creature isn't bigger than a barn, it's some kind of Ogre or troll, or similiar at best.

A "Giant" most be taller than 5-6 story building.>>94623728
Akchually...
>Giant
from Hellenic cthonic mythological creatures noted as large
>Troll
from a Nordic adjective referring to something magical or otherworldy, be it a person, an object, an animal or a mythological creature
So not even remotely the same thing in the sources, let alone from the same sources.
>inb4 ettins
Not all trolls are ettins and not all ettins are trolls. But 'ettin' does mean 'consumer', which could be seen in a cthonic (entropic) context.>>94628624
>cthonic (entropic)
You must be 18 or over to post on this site>>94628673
>I'm baffled by words that I didn't get from MTV, so therefore you're a child
If the children you're chatting with know Greek and understand Hellenic mythology, they're feds, anon. Well educated feds, but feds nonetheless.
Direct yourself to the myth of Persephone if you want an easy way to see the link between cthonic and entropic concepts in the Hellenistic world.>>94629192
Nice projection, retard
Chthonic (with an h, retard) refers to being underground. It has nothing to do with entropy, and neither does hades for that matter.>>94629202
>death and decay has nothing to do with entropy
ok bro>>94628508
If you look in a bit deeper, you'll find they were originally synonymous. Angrboda was often described as both.

>>94628624
>Akchually..
You need to be right to use that. Giants = jotun = trolls. Feel free to look it up.>>94630647
>look it up
Gladly. Name the original source that makes it explicit that there is 100% overlap between Hellenic gigantes, Nordic ettins and Nordic troll-things/beings (you won't).
Stop relying on shit translations and fantastical interpretations, anon.>>94631058
Why are you bringing Greek giants in?>>94631423
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+the+etymology+of+the+word+giant>>94632067
So you're completely unaware of giants in Norse folklore?>>94630647
Jötnar = Jotunn = Jotuni = Jatuli = ~Giant =/= Troll,
Sometimes trolls could be giant-sized, but Jötnar and Troll are still two distinct entities in nordic folklore.

If you had truly red - or heard - the folklore you'd know this.>>94633417
Or, as seems to be apparent, you've not actually "red" enough of Norse folklore and myth to know anything more than a really superficial level, and that's put you well outside of this particular topic. Good luck on your journey to learn more, though. I've started with some simple basics for you to begin with, they'll help clear up your confusion as to the related nature of trolls and jotuns.
>https://www.academia.edu/1259123/
>https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofnort0000sime
>https://www.academia.edu/1348105
>https://archive.org/details/icelandicfolktal0000simp
>https://www.jstor.org/stable/1260141>>94633225
>goalpost moving
So no source then?
>giants
By definition, all Gigantes are Hellenic chthonic proto-gods, not Nordic at all. If you just mean "a supernaturally large being", that's fine, but you'd still be hilariously wrong to say that all trolls are ettins and that both are enormous. So once again: primary source please?>>94633609
No goalpost moving at all. The discussion is that in Norse folklore, trolls and giants are synonymous. You're getting confused because you're incapable of following extremely blatant context. So here, go educate yourself like the other anon: >>94633528 >>94633528
>no primary sources
>only translations of opinions
>on post-christianization folklore
Oh wow you've got us convinced about pre-christian Nordic mythology anon!
You probably speak many Nordic languages right?>>94633633
>No goalpost moving at all.
Still no source? Just take the L man.
>The discussion is that in Norse folklore, trolls and giants are synonymous.
You're already forgetting your own retarded claims. >>94630647 Probably for the best.
I'll follow your lead and forget your braying too.>94633528
Mmhmm.
First source clearly delineates differences between Thursar, Jötnar, Risi and Tröll.
Second is a dictionary, not a source.
Third is source why Trolls and magic are intertwined, and why we have trolling in the language today.
Fourth source is cut short.
Fifth source might have something to support your theory that Jötnar = Tröll. Care to cite it with actual citation?
~~You will not, because you are defenitely not a giant.~~Holy samefag, Batman. I guess you've gotten a little hurt over this.

>>94633667
>no primary sources
Sorry, did you want me to tell you to read the Prose Edda? I didn't realise you were THIS unqualified to talk on this.
>only translations of opinions
While you have... nothing?
>on post-christianization folklore
Oof, painful to try to dance away from admitting I was right, with such a despearate gambit.

>>94633708
>Still no source? Just take the L man.
I gave you 5. Are you blind as well as ignorant?
>You're already forgetting your own retarded claims. >>94630647 (You) Probably for the best.
Amazingly dishonest for you to not link to >>94623728. You're the retard that tried to shoehorn Greek giants into what is very clearly a discussion on Norse giants.

>>94633763
That's just sad, man.
>First source clearly delineates differences between Thursar, Jötnar, Risi and Tröll.
Wow, you really are just a liar. Page 185: "This seems to be a big, stupid and ugly race, that may in turn be called “riser”, “jotnar” and “troll”, without any special need of sub-categorisation."
>Second is a dictionary, not a source.
A professor of Scandinavian mythology, having written multiple volumes of translated Norse myth, uses the primary source in his work but isn't a source, because YOU say. So glad to have your input!
>Third is source why Trolls and magic are intertwined, and why we have trolling in the language today.
Page 44: "“In medieval Iceland, the word Troll can have the same meaning as in the post-medieval Icelandic folktales, i.e. it can be synonymous with jotunn or mountain-dweller…”"
>Fourth source is cut short.
And? Try actually reading it. Page 77: "In Iceland, the word ‘troll’ always denotes a giant..."
>Fifth source might have something to support your theory that Jötnar = Tröll. Care to cite it with actual citation?
Yep, like the other 4 you didn't read.

You're a desperate, lying, little idiot.

How do you like your giants?

If you like them lewd I don't wanna hear it.Just a little inb4 because I know you fuckers.

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If you like them lewd I don't wanna hear it.
Just a little inb4 because I know you fuckers.