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>I'm guessing your idea is that becoming a god also has to do with intent?
Not necessarily, when I talked about intent it was more in the civic regard, specifically how we don't just look at outcomes when deciding justice because the WHY of what you're doing matters, attempted murder is still a crime after all. In that sense, FT intended to break the rules, had a clear plan of doing so, and did it, whereas the Monster didn't intend to break the rules, but it ended up happening to him anyway due to factors he wasn't aware of. You absolutely have to punish someone like FT because you want people scheming to know that swift retribution is waiting for them, and you could argue the same is true of the Monster, but then people will notice that the Shrine Maiden killed someone without ill intent and start to fear her, leading to people being more secretive about Youkai problems, like if they fear they're turning into one and need help, inadvertently harming the peace of Gensokyo.
Essentially, I don't think the rule follows Consequentialism because doing so in all cases undermines the goal of the rule, to preserve Gensokyo's balance. And again, this is Reimu, and the ending of CDS clearly shows that she not entirely dogmatic, if anything it's almost always been the opposite.

Civics aside, the way I consider Gensokyo's faith system is that gods are fueled by faith, which influences them to an extent, while they retain their character. You may be able to 'brainwash' someone by deifying them, but I believe that would be contingent on:
- having a high enough faith to overwhelm the aspirant
- the aspirant not fundamentally rejecting your faith.
Lets say I try to deify Yamame into a god of forges. She's not overly enthusiastic about it, but it does align with her construction job and it would help her make some nice knitting needles. I would have to gather up a much larger then average amount of faith for her to become a god and she might swing a forge hammer more often, yet it would be exponentially more costly then if I tried to deify someone like Kogasa, who's a practiced Blacksmith.
However, no matter how much faith is gathered, I don't believe the ascension could happen if the aspirant is entirely opposed to the principles you put into the faith. Imagine trying to make Murasa a god of harvests or mountains or Aya as the god of snails, even with infinite faith, it wouldn't happen.
This is why it was easier for it to happen to Sanae because she got along totally naturally with the faith, leading to a very low ascension cost. It would be harder for the Monster because he would reject the idea of being placed above others, making it hard to elevate him for being a benevolent god, but also reject the idea of being spiteful, making it hard to elevate him as an evil god.
>Not like pedantic lore talk like this matters when writing a good story, but it's interesting to me.
I think it leads to good ideas.
Thinking about ascension, I've had a bunch of ideas for a story about someone who goes through the process in Gensokyo and I think there's a really good horror element there of being deified against your will. The main idea is that an outsider gets tossed out of the village because he's like attracting Youkai like moths to a flame, he's chased by a Youkai, and is saved when a statue miraculously falls on his pursuer in front of a Lion statue. He believes the Lion is probably a god who saved his life and starts to revere it, slowly intuiting what the Lion stands for and gathering followers, being taught by Sanae and Shou bout faith at different points. While they come to see the Lion as a god of Courage, Wisdom, and Power, It's actual nature is a god of sacrifice and death. He spontaneously becomes aware of this when the statue is destroyed and the followers start to deify him instead. Which is a frightening prospect because he couldn't ascend if he didn't somewhat agree with the principles and the faith slowly influences his behavior. I had this idea before the black-n-white sigma lion meme, I was inspired by a copper lion statue I saw, at this point I think it would just make it extra hilarious.
The idea was mainly built around Shou, since I've never seen her written to her full potential, but if I decide to go through with it, I'll probably use more Sanae now because of this thread. Maybe have her argue with Shou over various matters on the mechanics of faith.

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What does Sanae go :D all the time?Is it because she's a good girl?>>49328239She's just happy to see (You).>>49328239Sanae when she sees an unaccompanied shota:

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What does Sanae go :D all the time?
Is it because she's a good girl?>>49328239
She's just happy to see (You).>>49328239
Sanae when she sees an unaccompanied shota: